I didn't think it was possible but I found the person who wrote out "Descendants of Joseph Partenais dit Partenay". I found one of her posts and contacted her to see what other information she had. She ended up sending me the very file I already had! She's been an extremely big help in finding stuff that I think would've taken me years to ever find.
This means I need to stop slacking off and finally update the website with new information. I have discovered that the censuses I've been uploading to an image hosting site is funky. If I try to visit the full view, I get an error saying the image doesn't exist - yet if I log in, all the images are still there.
One of these days, I'll have to register a domain url and get all of this hosted on one site but I don't have the extra money for it seeing as how prices are going up for everything.
I guess I'll be updating the site on my computer and try to get it all uploaded later.
Friday, August 29, 2008
Monday, July 28, 2008
Anna Raymond's SS-5 came... Patino is yet again confirmed.
The scanned paper reads:
U.S. Social Security ACT
Form SS-5
1. Mrs. Anna Raymond Rivait
(Married Women: Give maiden first name, maiden last name, and husband's last name)
2. ADDRESS IS BLANK
3. Vergennes, Vermont
4. Le Beau(?) Restaurant
5. Vergennes, Vermont
6. 52 (Age of Last Birthday)
7. December 2, 1885
8. Mineville, NY (Birthplace)
9. Frank Raymond (Father's name)
10. Delia Patino (Mother's name)
11. Female (Sex)
12. White (Color)
13. May 30, 1937 (Date of Employment)
14. No (Filled out a card like this before?)
15. January 7, 1938 (Date signed)
16. Mrs. Anna Rivait (Signature)
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This is awesome. Delia Patino surfaces again. I just need to figure out where she was buried. Either in the state of Vermont somewhere or sent to Canada to be buried with her family. Come to think of it, I don't know where Charles and Margaret were buried.
U.S. Social Security ACT
Form SS-5
1. Mrs. Anna Raymond Rivait
(Married Women: Give maiden first name, maiden last name, and husband's last name)
2. ADDRESS IS BLANK
3. Vergennes, Vermont
4. Le Beau(?) Restaurant
5. Vergennes, Vermont
6. 52 (Age of Last Birthday)
7. December 2, 1885
8. Mineville, NY (Birthplace)
9. Frank Raymond (Father's name)
10. Delia Patino (Mother's name)
11. Female (Sex)
12. White (Color)
13. May 30, 1937 (Date of Employment)
14. No (Filled out a card like this before?)
15. January 7, 1938 (Date signed)
16. Mrs. Anna Rivait (Signature)
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This is awesome. Delia Patino surfaces again. I just need to figure out where she was buried. Either in the state of Vermont somewhere or sent to Canada to be buried with her family. Come to think of it, I don't know where Charles and Margaret were buried.
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
More into Patino, Patineau, Patnode, etc...
I recently got a file from a member at ancestry.com. Unfortunately, she lost the contact information of whoever it was that sent the file to her. Whoever wrote up the file was a descendant of Frank Patnaud and Nellie Barton.
The reason I wanted the information was to find out more information on Anna Raymo's mother, Delia/Delema, and her parents, Charles and Margaret.
I have no idea how accurate all of this information is but they did try to list sources. The name of the file is "Descendants of Joseph Partenais dit Partenay" but zooming in on what I'm most curious about...
Brief version from the file:
Charles Partenais
B: March 1839 - Canada
Married Margaret Couto on February 20, 1860 in in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada.
Margaret Couto
B: July 01, 1834 - Canada
D: November 12, 1908 - New Haven, Addison, Vermont, USA
Bur: Middlebury Catholic Cemetery
Children of Charles and Margaret:
1. Joseph Alphonse Partenais
b. November 26, 1860
d. November 28, 1860
2. Joseph Ochance Partenais
bapt: November 26, 1860
bur: November 29, 1860
3. Clifford Patno
b. March 03, 1863
4. Rose De Lima Partenais
b. January 31, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada
d. Before 1900
5. Euclide Partenais
b. October 07, 1871
6. Frank C. Patnaud
b. September 1875
7. Flora Patino
b. Abt. 1878
m. ADELOR CYR, September 23, 1901, Panton, Vermont, USA
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Another mentioning of Adelor/Adelord. Interesting!
Now a blatant copy from the file about Delema/Delia:
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6. ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS (CHARLES, CHARLES, JOSEPH PARTENAIS DIT PARTENAY) was born January 31, 1865 in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA, and died Bef. 1900. She married RAINES.
More About ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS:
Baptism: February 01, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA
Godparents: Joseph Brousseau, Celina Couto
Child of ROSE PARTENAIS and RAINES is:
i. ANNA RAINES, b. December 1885, Vermont, USA.
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According to Census info, they listed Anna Raymo as "Anna Raines".
I wish I knew who wrote the file so that I can contact them about the 'Raines' really being Raymo/Raymond. If it is true that Delema's first name is Rose, it'd explain why everyone called her daughter as Anna even though her full name is "Rose Anna".
The reason I wanted the information was to find out more information on Anna Raymo's mother, Delia/Delema, and her parents, Charles and Margaret.
I have no idea how accurate all of this information is but they did try to list sources. The name of the file is "Descendants of Joseph Partenais dit Partenay" but zooming in on what I'm most curious about...
Brief version from the file:
Charles Partenais
B: March 1839 - Canada
Married Margaret Couto on February 20, 1860 in in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada.
Margaret Couto
B: July 01, 1834 - Canada
D: November 12, 1908 - New Haven, Addison, Vermont, USA
Bur: Middlebury Catholic Cemetery
Children of Charles and Margaret:
1. Joseph Alphonse Partenais
b. November 26, 1860
d. November 28, 1860
2. Joseph Ochance Partenais
bapt: November 26, 1860
bur: November 29, 1860
3. Clifford Patno
b. March 03, 1863
4. Rose De Lima Partenais
b. January 31, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada
d. Before 1900
5. Euclide Partenais
b. October 07, 1871
6. Frank C. Patnaud
b. September 1875
7. Flora Patino
b. Abt. 1878
m. ADELOR CYR, September 23, 1901, Panton, Vermont, USA
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Another mentioning of Adelor/Adelord. Interesting!
Now a blatant copy from the file about Delema/Delia:
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6. ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS (CHARLES, CHARLES, JOSEPH PARTENAIS DIT PARTENAY) was born January 31, 1865 in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA, and died Bef. 1900. She married RAINES.
More About ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS:
Baptism: February 01, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA
Godparents: Joseph Brousseau, Celina Couto
Child of ROSE PARTENAIS and RAINES is:
i. ANNA RAINES, b. December 1885, Vermont, USA.
---
According to Census info, they listed Anna Raymo as "Anna Raines".
I wish I knew who wrote the file so that I can contact them about the 'Raines' really being Raymo/Raymond. If it is true that Delema's first name is Rose, it'd explain why everyone called her daughter as Anna even though her full name is "Rose Anna".
Wednesday, July 9, 2008
Patino is a confirmed family name.
I'm still waiting on the SS-5. I got a little bit impatient and went on Google to see if anyone made a similar complaint. Apparently it takes around five to six months before a response comes. Eesh. Now that I know that is common, I will have to let the SS-5 surprise me down the road out of the blue.
I have been chatting with a guy over on ancestry.com and he has been extremely helpful! I can't even believe that he works with my cousin. The world just seems smaller by the minute!
He sent me two scanned documents that confirmed quite a bit of information. The first is a marriage certificate.
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CERTIFICATE OF MARRIAGE
GROOM'S Full Name: Stephen J. Rivett
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Twenty-six years
Occupation: Farmer
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Addison
Father's Name: Julius Rivett
Mother's Name: Josephine Rivett
BRIDE'S Full Name: Rose Anna Raymond
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Eighten Years
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Mineville, N. Y.
Father's Name: Frank Raymond
Mother's Name: Delia Raymond
The parties above named were joined in marriage at Vergennes, by me, this 15th day of February 1904.
Attest, Rev. A. Beauchesne, Catholic Priest.
Returned for record, February 16th, 1904
A TRUE RECORD, Attest, L. C. Seeger, Town Clerk
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Another mentioning of "Rose Anna". The second document is a birth certificate... A son of Frank and Delia (Delema) - Brother to Rose Anna.
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CITY OR TOWN OF: Addison during the month of March 1944
Place of Birth
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison
USUAL RESIDENCE OF MOTHER:
State: Vermont
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison
Full name of child: Frederick Joseph Raymond
Sex: Male
Date of Birth: September 18, 1888
Legitimate: Yes
FATHER OF CHILD:
Full Name: Frank Raymond
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 36 years
Birthplace: France
Usual occupation: Lumberman
MOTHER OF CHILD:
Full maiden name: Delema Patineau
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 28 years
Birthplace: Canada
Usual occupation: Housewife
Children born to this mother: 3
I hereby certify that this child who waws born alive at the hour of -----m on the date of above stated and that the information given is verified by Adelord Cyr, related to the child as uncle.
Date received by the local registrar: March 20, 1944.
Registrar's signature: Beaurnelle H. Clark
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I wonder why it took so long for a birth in 1888 to be reported in 1944. That's pretty interesting. I know Cyr may be a family name but I have to figure out how it fits into the tree. Cyr has been mentioned quite a few times around Patino/Patenaude/Patineau.
Now I have to figure out if its Delia or Delema. This is so exciting! I'm so glad I clung onto the census about Rose Anna and her grandfather, Charles Patino.
I have been chatting with a guy over on ancestry.com and he has been extremely helpful! I can't even believe that he works with my cousin. The world just seems smaller by the minute!
He sent me two scanned documents that confirmed quite a bit of information. The first is a marriage certificate.
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CERTIFICATE OF MARRIAGE
GROOM'S Full Name: Stephen J. Rivett
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Twenty-six years
Occupation: Farmer
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Addison
Father's Name: Julius Rivett
Mother's Name: Josephine Rivett
BRIDE'S Full Name: Rose Anna Raymond
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Eighten Years
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Mineville, N. Y.
Father's Name: Frank Raymond
Mother's Name: Delia Raymond
The parties above named were joined in marriage at Vergennes, by me, this 15th day of February 1904.
Attest, Rev. A. Beauchesne, Catholic Priest.
Returned for record, February 16th, 1904
A TRUE RECORD, Attest, L. C. Seeger, Town Clerk
-----
Another mentioning of "Rose Anna". The second document is a birth certificate... A son of Frank and Delia (Delema) - Brother to Rose Anna.
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CITY OR TOWN OF: Addison during the month of March 1944
Place of Birth
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison
USUAL RESIDENCE OF MOTHER:
State: Vermont
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison
Full name of child: Frederick Joseph Raymond
Sex: Male
Date of Birth: September 18, 1888
Legitimate: Yes
FATHER OF CHILD:
Full Name: Frank Raymond
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 36 years
Birthplace: France
Usual occupation: Lumberman
MOTHER OF CHILD:
Full maiden name: Delema Patineau
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 28 years
Birthplace: Canada
Usual occupation: Housewife
Children born to this mother: 3
I hereby certify that this child who waws born alive at the hour of -----m on the date of above stated and that the information given is verified by Adelord Cyr, related to the child as uncle.
Date received by the local registrar: March 20, 1944.
Registrar's signature: Beaurnelle H. Clark
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I wonder why it took so long for a birth in 1888 to be reported in 1944. That's pretty interesting. I know Cyr may be a family name but I have to figure out how it fits into the tree. Cyr has been mentioned quite a few times around Patino/Patenaude/Patineau.
Now I have to figure out if its Delia or Delema. This is so exciting! I'm so glad I clung onto the census about Rose Anna and her grandfather, Charles Patino.
Monday, May 26, 2008
SS-5 for Anna Rivait
I decided to give up on trying to find a connection between Charles Patino and Anna Raymo (Rosanna Raymond). I was told to try to get a copy of her SS5 as it'll list her parents on it. At least I'll finally get her mother's name for $27! ;)
Saturday, May 3, 2008
Heard from Church
Wow, I had totally given up on the church ever getting back to me. Unfortunately they didn't provide any information on Anna Raymo's parents. However, they did fill in some gaps. She died July 27, 1970 and was buried in St. Peter's cemetery on July 30, 1970.
They also jotted down that Stephen Joseph Rivait was 59 when he died (no dates because it was left blank). I believe it says here that he was age 13 as of his first communion.
You know, it is really hard to decide whether to stick to Anna Raymo or switch over to Rosanna Raymond. There's a possibility that her name may have been Rose Anna instead.
They also jotted down that Stephen Joseph Rivait was 59 when he died (no dates because it was left blank). I believe it says here that he was age 13 as of his first communion.
You know, it is really hard to decide whether to stick to Anna Raymo or switch over to Rosanna Raymond. There's a possibility that her name may have been Rose Anna instead.
Thursday, May 1, 2008
Ancestry Keeps Renewing/Alexandre Desrochers
I got into contact with a church that has burial records of my Great Grandfather, Alexander Stone, except this time, his name is Alexandre Desrochers. Goodie! Another version of a name! I can't believe how many different names one person can have when they're bouncing back and forth!
I'm also dealing with Ancestry woes. I paid for a month of World membership and the account information said it'd expire at the end of the month. After the month passed, I found out it automatically renewed. No problem. I found more information and then made it a point to cancel my subscription before the end of April. To my horror, I found out that it's been automatically renewed again.
I went through the whole cancellation process, again, and it said I don't qualify for a refund. I get to enjoy it straight to the end of May. Oy... It better end here.
I'm also dealing with Ancestry woes. I paid for a month of World membership and the account information said it'd expire at the end of the month. After the month passed, I found out it automatically renewed. No problem. I found more information and then made it a point to cancel my subscription before the end of April. To my horror, I found out that it's been automatically renewed again.
I went through the whole cancellation process, again, and it said I don't qualify for a refund. I get to enjoy it straight to the end of May. Oy... It better end here.
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