Hayes

Wow, a distant cousin has popped up and contacted me with more information on the Hayes family! I'm gonna have to update the site soon and get it posted.

One thing I am very pleased to find out is that Cockle is indeed a family name. Jennie Mae Duprey's parents are Benjamin Duprey and Jennie Cockle. I'm gonna have to go back to the Charles Cockle entry and add the Cockle tag.

Results came in...

Wow. The results came in sooner than I thought.

In the FamilyTreeDNA database, I only matched one person. I am hoping to hear from that person to figure out where in the lineage we're related.

Northeastern Smiths DNA Project

At the moment, I am placed at the very top of the list and the Webmaster placed me in this group with the other person I matched:
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GROUP 47, Haplogroup Q

21702 - 25 markers Henry Smith, b 1588 Eng. (Hempnall, Norfolkshire); d 1649, Rehoboth, Bristol Co., MA; m Judith Cooper.
133879 - 37 markers Justus Smith, b 1796 in Addison Co., VT.

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My "Smith" Lineage is here:
Pedigree Chart 1
and continues to:
Pedigree Chart 5

If you're a SMITH cousin who comes from any part in my line, You should get a test done. It'll add more information to the tree.

Roadrunner...

I found out this morning that Roadrunner is changing their homepage stuff around. I just don't understand why they're suddenly offering two different options that lead to home.roadrunner.com (10mbs - FTP) and home.rr.com (50mbs - Web). Naturally, I took the FTP route.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~jsmith128

I'll have to rush around and update the links.

Northeastern Smiths DNA Project

Northeastern Smiths DNA Project (http://www.smithconnections.com)

I have received e-mails from a couple people over the past few years about this site because of my Smith line. However, I've always had to delete the e-mails because paying for the test just wasn't possible.

A few weeks back, I took a gander at the site and saw that there was a sale. Believe it or not - An order was made tonight!

My father will be the one tested and I can't wait to see the results.

Carie Rivit - Stephen J. Rivait?

I'm going to have to figure out how the puzzle pieces work.

A birth registration came today from the Addison town clerk. It's for a male named Carie Rivit that was born October 18, 1876. His parents are Julius and Josephine (Moro) Rivit. Julius was born in Canada and Josephine was born in Fort Ann, New York.

Stephen J Rivait's tombstone says he was born 1876.

There's an 1880 census of Waltham, Addison County, Vermont that lists Stephen as 4 years of age.

I think it's safe to say that his original name was Carie before his parents changed it to Stephen before 1880. I'm still debating on whether or not using it on the site... but the parents are there and all. I guess I'll just have to pop it in as an interesting factoid.

As for what his middle initial could mean, I'm not sure. I was told that it was for Joseph but an Uncle came out of the blue and said it is for Julius.

Updated Site

Got the site updated with some new information. I felt overwhelmed at first but once I looked over the family tree and remembered a lot of things, the update kinda went smoothly. I got most of the new stuff up. I'll still be updating, I'm sure... hehe.

Site needs serious overhaul...

You know, the site may have worked for me at one time but as I fill in information, I'm finding that I seriously want to fix it up and make it look better. The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) theme is really cluttering up some stuff...

I'd feel better if I had a domain url and be able to thrust everything into one spot instead of spreading everything out and whatnot. This is tough. Hmm...

Found the Person who wrote out Partenais

I didn't think it was possible but I found the person who wrote out "Descendants of Joseph Partenais dit Partenay". I found one of her posts and contacted her to see what other information she had. She ended up sending me the very file I already had! She's been an extremely big help in finding stuff that I think would've taken me years to ever find.

This means I need to stop slacking off and finally update the website with new information. I have discovered that the censuses I've been uploading to an image hosting site is funky. If I try to visit the full view, I get an error saying the image doesn't exist - yet if I log in, all the images are still there.

One of these days, I'll have to register a domain url and get all of this hosted on one site but I don't have the extra money for it seeing as how prices are going up for everything.

I guess I'll be updating the site on my computer and try to get it all uploaded later.

Anna Raymond's SS-5 came... Patino is yet again confirmed.

The scanned paper reads:


U.S. Social Security ACT
Form SS-5

1. Mrs. Anna Raymond Rivait
(Married Women: Give maiden first name, maiden last name, and husband's last name)
2. ADDRESS IS BLANK
3. Vergennes, Vermont
4. Le Beau(?) Restaurant
5. Vergennes, Vermont
6. 52 (Age of Last Birthday)
7. December 2, 1885
8. Mineville, NY (Birthplace)
9. Frank Raymond (Father's name)
10. Delia Patino (Mother's name)
11. Female (Sex)
12. White (Color)
13. May 30, 1937 (Date of Employment)
14. No (Filled out a card like this before?)
15. January 7, 1938 (Date signed)
16. Mrs. Anna Rivait (Signature)

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This is awesome. Delia Patino surfaces again. I just need to figure out where she was buried. Either in the state of Vermont somewhere or sent to Canada to be buried with her family. Come to think of it, I don't know where Charles and Margaret were buried.

More into Patino, Patineau, Patnode, etc...

I recently got a file from a member at ancestry.com. Unfortunately, she lost the contact information of whoever it was that sent the file to her. Whoever wrote up the file was a descendant of Frank Patnaud and Nellie Barton.

The reason I wanted the information was to find out more information on Anna Raymo's mother, Delia/Delema, and her parents, Charles and Margaret.

I have no idea how accurate all of this information is but they did try to list sources. The name of the file is "Descendants of Joseph Partenais dit Partenay" but zooming in on what I'm most curious about...

Brief version from the file:

Charles Partenais
B: March 1839 - Canada

Married Margaret Couto on February 20, 1860 in in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada.

Margaret Couto
B: July 01, 1834 - Canada
D: November 12, 1908 - New Haven, Addison, Vermont, USA
Bur: Middlebury Catholic Cemetery


Children of Charles and Margaret:
1. Joseph Alphonse Partenais
b. November 26, 1860
d. November 28, 1860

2. Joseph Ochance Partenais
bapt: November 26, 1860
bur: November 29, 1860

3. Clifford Patno
b. March 03, 1863

4. Rose De Lima Partenais
b. January 31, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada
d. Before 1900

5. Euclide Partenais
b. October 07, 1871

6. Frank C. Patnaud
b. September 1875

7. Flora Patino
b. Abt. 1878
m. ADELOR CYR, September 23, 1901, Panton, Vermont, USA

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Another mentioning of Adelor/Adelord. Interesting!

Now a blatant copy from the file about Delema/Delia:

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6. ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS (CHARLES, CHARLES, JOSEPH PARTENAIS DIT PARTENAY) was born January 31, 1865 in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA, and died Bef. 1900. She married RAINES.

More About ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS:
Baptism: February 01, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA
Godparents: Joseph Brousseau, Celina Couto

Child of ROSE PARTENAIS and RAINES is:
i. ANNA RAINES, b. December 1885, Vermont, USA.

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According to Census info, they listed Anna Raymo as "Anna Raines".

I wish I knew who wrote the file so that I can contact them about the 'Raines' really being Raymo/Raymond. If it is true that Delema's first name is Rose, it'd explain why everyone called her daughter as Anna even though her full name is "Rose Anna".

Patino is a confirmed family name.

I'm still waiting on the SS-5. I got a little bit impatient and went on Google to see if anyone made a similar complaint. Apparently it takes around five to six months before a response comes. Eesh. Now that I know that is common, I will have to let the SS-5 surprise me down the road out of the blue.

I have been chatting with a guy over on ancestry.com and he has been extremely helpful! I can't even believe that he works with my cousin. The world just seems smaller by the minute!

He sent me two scanned documents that confirmed quite a bit of information. The first is a marriage certificate.

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CERTIFICATE OF MARRIAGE

GROOM'S Full Name: Stephen J. Rivett
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Twenty-six years
Occupation: Farmer
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Addison
Father's Name: Julius Rivett
Mother's Name: Josephine Rivett

BRIDE'S Full Name: Rose Anna Raymond
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Eighten Years
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Mineville, N. Y.
Father's Name: Frank Raymond
Mother's Name: Delia Raymond

The parties above named were joined in marriage at Vergennes, by me, this 15th day of February 1904.

Attest, Rev. A. Beauchesne, Catholic Priest.
Returned for record, February 16th, 1904
A TRUE RECORD, Attest, L. C. Seeger, Town Clerk

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Another mentioning of "Rose Anna". The second document is a birth certificate... A son of Frank and Delia (Delema) - Brother to Rose Anna.

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CITY OR TOWN OF: Addison during the month of March 1944

Place of Birth
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison

USUAL RESIDENCE OF MOTHER:
State: Vermont
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison

Full name of child: Frederick Joseph Raymond
Sex: Male
Date of Birth: September 18, 1888
Legitimate: Yes

FATHER OF CHILD:
Full Name: Frank Raymond
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 36 years
Birthplace: France
Usual occupation: Lumberman

MOTHER OF CHILD:
Full maiden name: Delema Patineau
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 28 years
Birthplace: Canada
Usual occupation: Housewife

Children born to this mother: 3

I hereby certify that this child who waws born alive at the hour of -----m on the date of above stated and that the information given is verified by Adelord Cyr, related to the child as uncle.

Date received by the local registrar: March 20, 1944.
Registrar's signature: Beaurnelle H. Clark

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I wonder why it took so long for a birth in 1888 to be reported in 1944. That's pretty interesting. I know Cyr may be a family name but I have to figure out how it fits into the tree. Cyr has been mentioned quite a few times around Patino/Patenaude/Patineau.

Now I have to figure out if its Delia or Delema. This is so exciting! I'm so glad I clung onto the census about Rose Anna and her grandfather, Charles Patino.

SS-5 for Anna Rivait

I decided to give up on trying to find a connection between Charles Patino and Anna Raymo (Rosanna Raymond). I was told to try to get a copy of her SS5 as it'll list her parents on it. At least I'll finally get her mother's name for $27! ;)

Heard from Church

Wow, I had totally given up on the church ever getting back to me. Unfortunately they didn't provide any information on Anna Raymo's parents. However, they did fill in some gaps. She died July 27, 1970 and was buried in St. Peter's cemetery on July 30, 1970.

They also jotted down that Stephen Joseph Rivait was 59 when he died (no dates because it was left blank). I believe it says here that he was age 13 as of his first communion.

You know, it is really hard to decide whether to stick to Anna Raymo or switch over to Rosanna Raymond. There's a possibility that her name may have been Rose Anna instead.

Ancestry Keeps Renewing/Alexandre Desrochers

I got into contact with a church that has burial records of my Great Grandfather, Alexander Stone, except this time, his name is Alexandre Desrochers. Goodie! Another version of a name! I can't believe how many different names one person can have when they're bouncing back and forth!


I'm also dealing with Ancestry woes. I paid for a month of World membership and the account information said it'd expire at the end of the month. After the month passed, I found out it automatically renewed. No problem. I found more information and then made it a point to cancel my subscription before the end of April. To my horror, I found out that it's been automatically renewed again.

I went through the whole cancellation process, again, and it said I don't qualify for a refund. I get to enjoy it straight to the end of May. Oy... It better end here.

Frederick Charles Whalon/Frederick C. Lovely

My aunt on my father's side is struggling to learn more about her father.

My grandmother is Elizabeth Marie Rivait. Before she married Robert Wilbur Smith, she had been previously married to a Frederick Charles Whalon/Lovely (I have no idea what number marriage this is for her.).

Frederick died in 1944. In fact, he died a couple months before my aunt was born. When her mother was dying and in the hospital, her mother refused to tell her about who her father was. There's rumors going around as to who the true father is.

One of the information was that her father was Frederick Charles Whalon but that he has used the surname Lovely too. I don't understand how that fits in. I've seen address books dated in 1942 where Frederick and Elizabeth Whalon were listed. Frederick also had a trucking business where he carted away garbage.

My aunt sent us a copy of her birth certificate. It listed her father as Frederick Lovely.

I did searches on ancestry.com. I found Frederick Whalon in a couple censuses where the dates match. I did not find any Lovely's.

Monday, I sent away a request to the state for a marriage certificate for Frederick Whalon/Lovely and Elizabeth Rivait.

Mail has arrived!

I was beginning to think that I'd be receiving two "No Record Found!" today but thankfully, my two requests to the state of Vermont has both been good.

Linda Lee Derouchie
Date of Death: December 19, 1949
Disease directly leading to death: Asphyxiation, accidental

How did injury occur?: While sleeping



Wow... Just six days before Christmas. That had to have been the worst Christmas for my grandparents. I wonder if my grandmother always thought about Linda every Christmas.



Marriage Certificate
For my paternal Grandparents:

MARRIAGE - GROOM
Name of Groom: Robert Wilbur Smith
Name of Bride: Elizabeth Marie Rivait Lovely
Residence of Groom: Vergennes, Vermont
Date blood test was done: November 2, 1945
Date of Marriage: November 11, 1945
Occupation: Electrician
Number of Marriage: 3
Widowed/Divorced: Divorced
Place of Birth: Addison, Vermont
Age in Years: 28
Father's Name: Wilbur E. Smith - Birthplace: Addison
Mother's name: Anna McEvila - Birthplace: Addison
Place of Marriage: New Haven, VT




All that's left is to wait for a letter from St. Peter's - assuming anyone ever responds to it and helps me out.

McEvila and Greenwood

Ancestry apparently charged for another month. I didn't think that would happen. Ooops. I decided to take another look at the tree and I decided to look around the McEvila and Greenwood on my father's side.

My Great Great Grandparents are James McEvila and Charlotte Greenwood.

Charlotte Greenwood's parents are James Greenwood and Anne ??????.

I've been trying to find censuses...

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THIRD GREAT-GRANDPARENTS:

Husband: James Greenwood
born: Abt 1816?
location: Ireland

Wife: Anne UNKNOWN
born: Abt 1825?
location: Ireland


1860 Census - New York Ward 16 District 2, New York, New York
GREENWOOD, James - 41 - M - Blacksmith - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Ann - 34 - F - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Charles - 6 - M - New York
GREENWOOD, Baby - 1/12 - F - New York

1870 Census - Lewis, Essex County, New York
GREENWOOD, James - 54 - M - Farmer - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Anne - 45 - F - Keeping Home - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Thomas - 17 - M - Laborer - New York
GREENWOOD, Charlotte - 5 - F - New York
GREENWOOD, Elizabeth - 3 - F - New York

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I suspect that Charles and Thomas are the names of the same person because of the ages. I have no idea if he is the son of James and Ann.

As for the female baby in the 1860 census, I suspect she must've died for she doesn't show in the next census.

I did look up both Charles and Thomas but I can't seem to figure out who to follow. There's a few that look like easy candidates for it but who knows. I can't follow Elizabeth because there's no telling who she married before 1900.

I can't find an 1880 census for James, Ann, or Elizabeth.

EXCEPT...

In the same place ten years later.

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1880 Census - Lewis, Essex County, New York
GREENWOOD, Ann - F - 48 - Head - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Ann E. - F - 12 - Daughter - New York
GREENWOOD, James - M 6 - Grandson - New York

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Could Ann have lied about her age or maybe the census taker jotted down the wrong age? Is it possible the E. in daughter Ann stands for Elizabeth? It's something to think about.

Sending a request to the church.

I wrote a letter for the church that sent me the baptism record on my grandmother, Elizabeth Rivait. I decided to ask for their help in case Anna Raymo/Raymond ever registered information about herself such as her parents - as well as any information on Stephen Rivait too.

Myron A. Smith and Mary Ella Cross

Decided I oughta take a peek at another branch of the family tree and focused on Mary Ella Cross. Here's my possible information...
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MOTHER: Mary Hurlburt Cross - died: September 23, 1862
Name: Mary Hurlburt Cross
Death Date: 23 Sep 1862
Age: 81 years
(Mother of Henry S.)
Cemetery: Sunset View Cemetery
Description: Waltham, Vermont

SON: Henry S. Cross - Abt 1811?
FIRST WIFE: Catharine H. ??
(Name: Catharine H. Cross
Death Date: 25 May 1851
Age: 33 years
(wife of Henry S.)
Cemetery: Sunset View Cemetery
Description: Waltham, Vermont)

SON: Artemus Cassius Cross
(Name: A. Cassius Cross
Death Date: 05 May 1864
Age: 18 years 11 mos.
(Co. F. 1st Regt. U.S.S.S., Killed in the battle of the wilderness) in Hancock's Corps
Cemetery: Sunset View Cemetery
Description: Waltham, Vermont )


SECOND WIFE: Sylvia R. Bacon(?) - Abt 1833?
DAUGHTER?: Julia Cross
DAUGHTER: Mary Ella Cross - November 5, 1863
DAUGHTER: Edwin S. Cross - Abt 1870?


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1850 - Waltham, Addison County, Vermont
BURROS, Ruland - 75 - Farmer - ???
BURROS, Sarah - 68 - Massachusetts
CROSS, Henry S - 40 - Vermont
CROSS, Catherine - 34 - Vermont
CROSS, Artemus - 5 - Vermont

1860 - Waltham, Addison County, Vermont
CROSS, Henry S. - 49 - Male - Farmer - Vermont
CROSS, Sylvia - 26 - Female - Vermont
CROSS, Cassius - 14 - Male - Vermont
CROSS, Julia - 3 - Female - Vermont
CROSS, Mary - 16 - Female - Servant - Canada
HURLBUT, Mary - 78 - Female - Vermont


1880 - Bridport, Addison County, Vermont
CROSS, Henry S. - 69 - HEAD - Vermont - NY - VT
CROSS, Mary E. - 17 - Daughter - Vermont - VT - VT
CROSS, Sylvia R. - 47 - Wife - Vermont - VT - NY
CROSS, Edwin S. - 10 - Son - Vermont - VT - VT
HAYWARD, Susan R. - 56 - Boarder - Vermont - ?? - VT
DUPREE, Henry - 27 - Servant - New York - NY - NY

Digging up Lawrence Hayes....

Hmm... I'm still not getting anywhere all that much. My latest information is:

1870 - Williston, Chittenden County, Vermont
(neighbor's house)
HAYE, Mary - 18 - Vermont

HAYE, Clarence - 46 - Ireland
HAYE, Mary - 45 - Ireland
HAYE, Thomas - 30 - Vermont
HAYE, Lawrence - 10 - Vermont


1880 - Williston, Chittenden County, Vermont (Broken Image)
HAYES, Lawrence - Abt 1824 - Ireland - HEAD
HAYES, Mary - Abt 1825 - Ireland - Wife
HAYES, Mary - Abt 1854 - Vermont - Daughter
HAYES, Lawrence - Abt 1861 - Vermont - Son


1900 - Williston, Chittenden County, Vermont
HAYES, Lawrence - HEAD - July 1820 - 79 - Ireland - Immigrated 1845
HAYES, Mary - Daughter - October 1853 - 46 - Vermont
HAYES, Margaret E. - Daughter - May 1855 - 45 - Vermont
HAYES, Mabel M. - Granddaughter - May 1899 - 9 - Vermont
HAYES, John W. - Grandson - December 1891 - 8 - Vermont


I keep reporting the 1880 census as broken but Ancestry hasn't done anything about it. I find it interesting that the name was Clarence in the 1870 census. I wonder if that explains why Lawrence wasn't named as Jr.