Personal Genealogy Research Experience

Hayes

2008-11-26T07:53:00.000-08:00

Wow, a distant cousin has popped up and contacted me with more information on the Hayes family! I'm gonna have to update the site soon and get it posted.

One thing I am very pleased to find out is that Cockle is indeed a family name. Jennie Mae Duprey's parents are Benjamin Duprey and Jennie Cockle. I'm gonna have to go back to the Charles Cockle entry and add the Cockle tag.

Results came in...

2008-11-19T21:00:00.000-08:00

Wow. The results came in sooner than I thought.

In the FamilyTreeDNA database, I only matched one person. I am hoping to hear from that person to figure out where in the lineage we're related.

Northeastern Smiths DNA Project

At the moment, I am placed at the very top of the list and the Webmaster placed me in this group with the other person I matched:
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GROUP 47, Haplogroup Q

21702 - 25 markers Henry Smith, b 1588 Eng. (Hempnall, Norfolkshire); d 1649, Rehoboth, Bristol Co., MA; m Judith Cooper.
133879 - 37 markers Justus Smith, b 1796 in Addison Co., VT.

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My "Smith" Lineage is here:
Pedigree Chart 1
and continues to:
Pedigree Chart 5

If you're a SMITH cousin who comes from any part in my line, You should get a test done. It'll add more information to the tree.

Roadrunner...

2008-10-16T06:57:00.000-07:00

I found out this morning that Roadrunner is changing their homepage stuff around. I just don't understand why they're suddenly offering two different options that lead to home.roadrunner.com (10mbs - FTP) and home.rr.com (50mbs - Web). Naturally, I took the FTP route.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~jsmith128

I'll have to rush around and update the links.

Northeastern Smiths DNA Project

2008-09-22T19:56:00.000-07:00

Northeastern Smiths DNA Project (http://www.smithconnections.com)

I have received e-mails from a couple people over the past few years about this site because of my Smith line. However, I've always had to delete the e-mails because paying for the test just wasn't possible.

A few weeks back, I took a gander at the site and saw that there was a sale. Believe it or not - An order was made tonight!

My father will be the one tested and I can't wait to see the results.

Carie Rivit - Stephen J. Rivait?

2008-09-22T16:01:00.000-07:00

I'm going to have to figure out how the puzzle pieces work.

A birth registration came today from the Addison town clerk. It's for a male named Carie Rivit that was born October 18, 1876. His parents are Julius and Josephine (Moro) Rivit. Julius was born in Canada and Josephine was born in Fort Ann, New York.

Stephen J Rivait's tombstone says he was born 1876.

There's an 1880 census of Waltham, Addison County, Vermont that lists Stephen as 4 years of age.

I think it's safe to say that his original name was Carie before his parents changed it to Stephen before 1880. I'm still debating on whether or not using it on the site... but the parents are there and all. I guess I'll just have to pop it in as an interesting factoid.

As for what his middle initial could mean, I'm not sure. I was told that it was for Joseph but an Uncle came out of the blue and said it is for Julius.

Updated Site

2008-09-04T10:25:00.001-07:00

Got the site updated with some new information. I felt overwhelmed at first but once I looked over the family tree and remembered a lot of things, the update kinda went smoothly. I got most of the new stuff up. I'll still be updating, I'm sure... hehe.

Site needs serious overhaul...

2008-08-31T02:32:00.001-07:00

You know, the site may have worked for me at one time but as I fill in information, I'm finding that I seriously want to fix it up and make it look better. The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) theme is really cluttering up some stuff...

I'd feel better if I had a domain url and be able to thrust everything into one spot instead of spreading everything out and whatnot. This is tough. Hmm...

Found the Person who wrote out Partenais

2008-08-29T22:06:00.000-07:00

I didn't think it was possible but I found the person who wrote out "Descendants of Joseph Partenais dit Partenay". I found one of her posts and contacted her to see what other information she had. She ended up sending me the very file I already had! She's been an extremely big help in finding stuff that I think would've taken me years to ever find.

This means I need to stop slacking off and finally update the website with new information. I have discovered that the censuses I've been uploading to an image hosting site is funky. If I try to visit the full view, I get an error saying the image doesn't exist - yet if I log in, all the images are still there.

One of these days, I'll have to register a domain url and get all of this hosted on one site but I don't have the extra money for it seeing as how prices are going up for everything.

I guess I'll be updating the site on my computer and try to get it all uploaded later.

Anna Raymond's SS-5 came... Patino is yet again confirmed.

2008-07-28T21:52:00.000-07:00

The scanned paper reads:

U.S. Social Security ACT
Form SS-5

1. Mrs. Anna Raymond Rivait
(Married Women: Give maiden first name, maiden last name, and husband's last name)
2. ADDRESS IS BLANK
3. Vergennes, Vermont
4. Le Beau(?) Restaurant
5. Vergennes, Vermont
6. 52 (Age of Last Birthday)
7. December 2, 1885
8. Mineville, NY (Birthplace)
9. Frank Raymond (Father's name)
10. Delia Patino (Mother's name)
11. Female (Sex)
12. White (Color)
13. May 30, 1937 (Date of Employment)
14. No (Filled out a card like this before?)
15. January 7, 1938 (Date signed)
16. Mrs. Anna Rivait (Signature)

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This is awesome. Delia Patino surfaces again. I just need to figure out where she was buried. Either in the state of Vermont somewhere or sent to Canada to be buried with her family. Come to think of it, I don't know where Charles and Margaret were buried.

More into Patino, Patineau, Patnode, etc...

2008-07-23T16:48:00.000-07:00

I recently got a file from a member at ancestry.com. Unfortunately, she lost the contact information of whoever it was that sent the file to her. Whoever wrote up the file was a descendant of Frank Patnaud and Nellie Barton.

The reason I wanted the information was to find out more information on Anna Raymo's mother, Delia/Delema, and her parents, Charles and Margaret.

I have no idea how accurate all of this information is but they did try to list sources. The name of the file is "Descendants of Joseph Partenais dit Partenay" but zooming in on what I'm most curious about...

Brief version from the file:

Charles Partenais
B: March 1839 - Canada

Married Margaret Couto on February 20, 1860 in in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada.

Margaret Couto
B: July 01, 1834 - Canada
D: November 12, 1908 - New Haven, Addison, Vermont, USA
Bur: Middlebury Catholic Cemetery

Children of Charles and Margaret:
1. Joseph Alphonse Partenais
b. November 26, 1860
d. November 28, 1860

2. Joseph Ochance Partenais
bapt: November 26, 1860
bur: November 29, 1860

3. Clifford Patno
b. March 03, 1863

4. Rose De Lima Partenais
b. January 31, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, Canada
d. Before 1900

5. Euclide Partenais
b. October 07, 1871

6. Frank C. Patnaud
b. September 1875

7. Flora Patino
b. Abt. 1878
m. ADELOR CYR, September 23, 1901, Panton, Vermont, USA

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Another mentioning of Adelor/Adelord. Interesting!

Now a blatant copy from the file about Delema/Delia:

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6. ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS (CHARLES, CHARLES, JOSEPH PARTENAIS DIT PARTENAY) was born January 31, 1865 in St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA, and died Bef. 1900. She married RAINES.

More About ROSE DE LIMA PARTENAIS:
Baptism: February 01, 1865, St. Alphonse Rodrique, Joliette, Quebec, CANADA
Godparents: Joseph Brousseau, Celina Couto

Child of ROSE PARTENAIS and RAINES is:
i. ANNA RAINES, b. December 1885, Vermont, USA.

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According to Census info, they listed Anna Raymo as "Anna Raines".

I wish I knew who wrote the file so that I can contact them about the 'Raines' really being Raymo/Raymond. If it is true that Delema's first name is Rose, it'd explain why everyone called her daughter as Anna even though her full name is "Rose Anna".

Patino is a confirmed family name.

2008-07-09T10:01:00.000-07:00

I'm still waiting on the SS-5. I got a little bit impatient and went on Google to see if anyone made a similar complaint. Apparently it takes around five to six months before a response comes. Eesh. Now that I know that is common, I will have to let the SS-5 surprise me down the road out of the blue.

I have been chatting with a guy over on ancestry.com and he has been extremely helpful! I can't even believe that he works with my cousin. The world just seems smaller by the minute!

He sent me two scanned documents that confirmed quite a bit of information. The first is a marriage certificate.

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CERTIFICATE OF MARRIAGE

GROOM'S Full Name: Stephen J. Rivett
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Twenty-six years
Occupation: Farmer
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Addison
Father's Name: Julius Rivett
Mother's Name: Josephine Rivett

BRIDE'S Full Name: Rose Anna Raymond
Place of Residence: Addison
Age: Eighten Years
Number of Marriage: First
Place of Birth: Mineville, N. Y.
Father's Name: Frank Raymond
Mother's Name: Delia Raymond

The parties above named were joined in marriage at Vergennes, by me, this 15th day of February 1904.

Attest, Rev. A. Beauchesne, Catholic Priest.
Returned for record, February 16th, 1904
A TRUE RECORD, Attest, L. C. Seeger, Town Clerk

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Another mentioning of "Rose Anna". The second document is a birth certificate... A son of Frank and Delia (Delema) - Brother to Rose Anna.

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CITY OR TOWN OF: Addison during the month of March 1944

Place of Birth
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison

USUAL RESIDENCE OF MOTHER:
State: Vermont
County: Addison
City or Town: Addison

Full name of child: Frederick Joseph Raymond
Sex: Male
Date of Birth: September 18, 1888
Legitimate: Yes

FATHER OF CHILD:
Full Name: Frank Raymond
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 36 years
Birthplace: France
Usual occupation: Lumberman

MOTHER OF CHILD:
Full maiden name: Delema Patineau
Color or race: White
Age at time of this birth: 28 years
Birthplace: Canada
Usual occupation: Housewife

Children born to this mother: 3

I hereby certify that this child who waws born alive at the hour of -----m on the date of above stated and that the information given is verified by Adelord Cyr, related to the child as uncle.

Date received by the local registrar: March 20, 1944.
Registrar's signature: Beaurnelle H. Clark

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I wonder why it took so long for a birth in 1888 to be reported in 1944. That's pretty interesting. I know Cyr may be a family name but I have to figure out how it fits into the tree. Cyr has been mentioned quite a few times around Patino/Patenaude/Patineau.

Now I have to figure out if its Delia or Delema. This is so exciting! I'm so glad I clung onto the census about Rose Anna and her grandfather, Charles Patino.

SS-5 for Anna Rivait

2008-05-26T06:06:00.000-07:00

I decided to give up on trying to find a connection between Charles Patino and Anna Raymo (Rosanna Raymond). I was told to try to get a copy of her SS5 as it'll list her parents on it. At least I'll finally get her mother's name for $27! ;)

Heard from Church

2008-05-03T14:00:00.000-07:00

Wow, I had totally given up on the church ever getting back to me. Unfortunately they didn't provide any information on Anna Raymo's parents. However, they did fill in some gaps. She died July 27, 1970 and was buried in St. Peter's cemetery on July 30, 1970.

They also jotted down that Stephen Joseph Rivait was 59 when he died (no dates because it was left blank). I believe it says here that he was age 13 as of his first communion.

You know, it is really hard to decide whether to stick to Anna Raymo or switch over to Rosanna Raymond. There's a possibility that her name may have been Rose Anna instead.

Ancestry Keeps Renewing/Alexandre Desrochers

2008-05-01T15:45:00.000-07:00

I got into contact with a church that has burial records of my Great Grandfather, Alexander Stone, except this time, his name is Alexandre Desrochers. Goodie! Another version of a name! I can't believe how many different names one person can have when they're bouncing back and forth!

I'm also dealing with Ancestry woes. I paid for a month of World membership and the account information said it'd expire at the end of the month. After the month passed, I found out it automatically renewed. No problem. I found more information and then made it a point to cancel my subscription before the end of April. To my horror, I found out that it's been automatically renewed again.

I went through the whole cancellation process, again, and it said I don't qualify for a refund. I get to enjoy it straight to the end of May. Oy... It better end here.

Frederick Charles Whalon/Frederick C. Lovely

2008-04-22T08:55:00.000-07:00

My aunt on my father's side is struggling to learn more about her father.

My grandmother is Elizabeth Marie Rivait. Before she married Robert Wilbur Smith, she had been previously married to a Frederick Charles Whalon/Lovely (I have no idea what number marriage this is for her.).

Frederick died in 1944. In fact, he died a couple months before my aunt was born. When her mother was dying and in the hospital, her mother refused to tell her about who her father was. There's rumors going around as to who the true father is.

One of the information was that her father was Frederick Charles Whalon but that he has used the surname Lovely too. I don't understand how that fits in. I've seen address books dated in 1942 where Frederick and Elizabeth Whalon were listed. Frederick also had a trucking business where he carted away garbage.

My aunt sent us a copy of her birth certificate. It listed her father as Frederick Lovely.

I did searches on ancestry.com. I found Frederick Whalon in a couple censuses where the dates match. I did not find any Lovely's.

Monday, I sent away a request to the state for a marriage certificate for Frederick Whalon/Lovely and Elizabeth Rivait.

Mail has arrived!

2008-04-05T09:13:00.000-07:00

I was beginning to think that I'd be receiving two "No Record Found!" today but thankfully, my two requests to the state of Vermont has both been good.

Linda Lee Derouchie
Date of Death: December 19, 1949
Disease directly leading to death: Asphyxiation, accidental

How did injury occur?: While sleeping

Wow... Just six days before Christmas. That had to have been the worst Christmas for my grandparents. I wonder if my grandmother always thought about Linda every Christmas.

Marriage Certificate
For my paternal Grandparents:

MARRIAGE - GROOM
Name of Groom: Robert Wilbur Smith
Name of Bride: Elizabeth Marie Rivait Lovely
Residence of Groom: Vergennes, Vermont
Date blood test was done: November 2, 1945
Date of Marriage: November 11, 1945
Occupation: Electrician
Number of Marriage: 3
Widowed/Divorced: Divorced
Place of Birth: Addison, Vermont
Age in Years: 28
Father's Name: Wilbur E. Smith - Birthplace: Addison
Mother's name: Anna McEvila - Birthplace: Addison
Place of Marriage: New Haven, VT

All that's left is to wait for a letter from St. Peter's - assuming anyone ever responds to it and helps me out.

McEvila and Greenwood

2008-04-03T04:10:00.001-07:00

Ancestry apparently charged for another month. I didn't think that would happen. Ooops. I decided to take another look at the tree and I decided to look around the McEvila and Greenwood on my father's side.

My Great Great Grandparents are James McEvila and Charlotte Greenwood.

Charlotte Greenwood's parents are James Greenwood and Anne ??????.

I've been trying to find censuses...

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THIRD GREAT-GRANDPARENTS:

Husband: James Greenwood
born: Abt 1816?
location: Ireland

Wife: Anne UNKNOWN
born: Abt 1825?
location: Ireland

1860 Census - New York Ward 16 District 2, New York, New York
GREENWOOD, James - 41 - M - Blacksmith - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Ann - 34 - F - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Charles - 6 - M - New York
GREENWOOD, Baby - 1/12 - F - New York

1870 Census - Lewis, Essex County, New York
GREENWOOD, James - 54 - M - Farmer - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Anne - 45 - F - Keeping Home - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Thomas - 17 - M - Laborer - New York
GREENWOOD, Charlotte - 5 - F - New York
GREENWOOD, Elizabeth - 3 - F - New York

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I suspect that Charles and Thomas are the names of the same person because of the ages. I have no idea if he is the son of James and Ann.

As for the female baby in the 1860 census, I suspect she must've died for she doesn't show in the next census.

I did look up both Charles and Thomas but I can't seem to figure out who to follow. There's a few that look like easy candidates for it but who knows. I can't follow Elizabeth because there's no telling who she married before 1900.

I can't find an 1880 census for James, Ann, or Elizabeth.

EXCEPT...

In the same place ten years later.

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1880 Census - Lewis, Essex County, New York
GREENWOOD, Ann - F - 48 - Head - Ireland
GREENWOOD, Ann E. - F - 12 - Daughter - New York
GREENWOOD, James - M 6 - Grandson - New York

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Could Ann have lied about her age or maybe the census taker jotted down the wrong age? Is it possible the E. in daughter Ann stands for Elizabeth? It's something to think about.

Sending a request to the church.

2008-03-25T22:45:00.001-07:00

I wrote a letter for the church that sent me the baptism record on my grandmother, Elizabeth Rivait. I decided to ask for their help in case Anna Raymo/Raymond ever registered information about herself such as her parents - as well as any information on Stephen Rivait too.

Myron A. Smith and Mary Ella Cross

2008-03-21T14:05:00.000-07:00

Decided I oughta take a peek at another branch of the family tree and focused on Mary Ella Cross. Here's my possible information...
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MOTHER: Mary Hurlburt Cross - died: September 23, 1862
Name: Mary Hurlburt Cross
Death Date: 23 Sep 1862
Age: 81 years
(Mother of Henry S.)
Cemetery: Sunset View Cemetery
Description: Waltham, Vermont

SON: Henry S. Cross - Abt 1811?
FIRST WIFE: Catharine H. ??
(Name: Catharine H. Cross
Death Date: 25 May 1851
Age: 33 years
(wife of Henry S.)
Cemetery: Sunset View Cemetery
Description: Waltham, Vermont)

SON: Artemus Cassius Cross
(Name: A. Cassius Cross
Death Date: 05 May 1864
Age: 18 years 11 mos.
(Co. F. 1st Regt. U.S.S.S., Killed in the battle of the wilderness) in Hancock's Corps
Cemetery: Sunset View Cemetery
Description: Waltham, Vermont )

SECOND WIFE: Sylvia R. Bacon(?) - Abt 1833?
DAUGHTER?: Julia Cross
DAUGHTER: Mary Ella Cross - November 5, 1863
DAUGHTER: Edwin S. Cross - Abt 1870?

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1850 - Waltham, Addison County, Vermont
BURROS, Ruland - 75 - Farmer - ???
BURROS, Sarah - 68 - Massachusetts
CROSS, Henry S - 40 - Vermont
CROSS, Catherine - 34 - Vermont
CROSS, Artemus - 5 - Vermont

1860 - Waltham, Addison County, Vermont
CROSS, Henry S. - 49 - Male - Farmer - Vermont
CROSS, Sylvia - 26 - Female - Vermont
CROSS, Cassius - 14 - Male - Vermont
CROSS, Julia - 3 - Female - Vermont
CROSS, Mary - 16 - Female - Servant - Canada
HURLBUT, Mary - 78 - Female - Vermont

1880 - Bridport, Addison County, Vermont
CROSS, Henry S. - 69 - HEAD - Vermont - NY - VT
CROSS, Mary E. - 17 - Daughter - Vermont - VT - VT
CROSS, Sylvia R. - 47 - Wife - Vermont - VT - NY
CROSS, Edwin S. - 10 - Son - Vermont - VT - VT
HAYWARD, Susan R. - 56 - Boarder - Vermont - ?? - VT
DUPREE, Henry - 27 - Servant - New York - NY - NY

Digging up Lawrence Hayes....

2008-03-20T13:36:00.000-07:00

Hmm... I'm still not getting anywhere all that much. My latest information is:

1870 - Williston, Chittenden County, Vermont
(neighbor's house)
HAYE, Mary - 18 - Vermont

HAYE, Clarence - 46 - Ireland
HAYE, Mary - 45 - Ireland
HAYE, Thomas - 30 - Vermont
HAYE, Lawrence - 10 - Vermont

1880 - Williston, Chittenden County, Vermont (Broken Image)
HAYES, Lawrence - Abt 1824 - Ireland - HEAD
HAYES, Mary - Abt 1825 - Ireland - Wife
HAYES, Mary - Abt 1854 - Vermont - Daughter
HAYES, Lawrence - Abt 1861 - Vermont - Son

1900 - Williston, Chittenden County, Vermont
HAYES, Lawrence - HEAD - July 1820 - 79 - Ireland - Immigrated 1845
HAYES, Mary - Daughter - October 1853 - 46 - Vermont
HAYES, Margaret E. - Daughter - May 1855 - 45 - Vermont
HAYES, Mabel M. - Granddaughter - May 1899 - 9 - Vermont
HAYES, John W. - Grandson - December 1891 - 8 - Vermont

I keep reporting the 1880 census as broken but Ancestry hasn't done anything about it. I find it interesting that the name was Clarence in the 1870 census. I wonder if that explains why Lawrence wasn't named as Jr.

Lawrence L. Hayes & Jennie Mae Duprey

2008-03-19T13:15:00.000-07:00

I'm doing some searching on ancestry.com for more information on Lawrence L. Hayes and Jennie Mae Duprey.

One thing I've noticed is that the Hayes family seems to have stayed in Chittenden County, Vermont for a majority of the time.

I'm trying to figure out if James Edward Hayes was counted twice in the 1920 census.

1920 - Williston, Chittenden County, Vermont
dated: January 7, 8, 9, 1920

HAYS, Margaret E. - HEAD - 64
HAYS, James - Nephew - 17

1920 - Shelburne, Chittenden County, Vermont
dated: February 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 1920

HAYES, Lawrence L. - HEAD - 60
HAYES, Jennie M. - Wife - 44
HAYES, John W. - Son - 28
HAYES, Thomas L. - Son - 24
HAYES, William R. - Son - 20
HAYES, James E. - Son - 18
HAYES, Stephen R. - Son - 15 -
HAYES, Ruth M. - Daughter - 10 -
CILBRITH, Ethel M. - Granddaughter - 1 6/12
COCKLE, Charles - Uncle - 66

I'm thinking James moved back into his parents' home after January's census but before February's census. I'll have to scrape together the censuses that shows how Margaret is sister to Lawrence.

Charles E. Patino/Patenaude

2008-03-16T19:40:00.000-07:00

I'm not sure if Patino/Patenaude is a possibly family name yet.

I keep looking at the 1900 census on Does anyone know Anna Raymo? and I can't help but wonder... There's a very real chance that this Charles Patino is one of my grandfathers further in the line.

It means that Anna Raymo's mother was a Patino. Problem is, I can't find out who Charles Patino's children were. There was a woman posting information she had about one of Charles' children - Frank - but that's all I have to go on. I tried looking up censuses but I'm sure the others are in Canada and I have no way of verifying anything from Canada.

I am ready to believe that this Anna Raymo on the 1900 census is my great grandmother because of how it lists her father as born in France.

Two more requests...

2008-03-16T11:27:00.000-07:00

I made out two more requests today. One for Linda Derouchie's death certificate - in hopes of trying to find out where she is buried. The other is for a marriage certificate of my paternal grandparents, Robert Smith & Elizabeth Rivait.

Elizabeth Marie Rivait - Score!

2008-03-15T10:42:00.000-07:00

It turns out St Peter's Church in Vergennes, Vermont had a record!

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CERTIFICATE OF BAPTISM

This is to certify that Elizabeth Marie, Child of Stephen Rivet and Rose Anna Raymond, born in Vergennes, Vt on the 7th day of May 1917 was baptized on the 3rd day of June 1917.

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That's interesting to find about Anna Raymo though... Everyone referred to her as Anna and I assumed it was her nickname for Rosanna but if her name really was Rose Anna... Hmm...

Linda Lee Derouchie

2008-03-13T09:48:00.000-07:00

I got her birth certificate today. I guess my mother was right after all after a sibling born after her.

Place of Birth: Chittenden - Burlington
Usual residence of mother: Vermont - Chittenden
City or Town: South Burlington
Sex: Female
Legitimate: Yes
Weight at Birth: 8lbs
Name: Linda Lee Derouchie
Birthdate: October 11, 1949
Father: LIVING - Age 19
Mother: Thelma Ruth Hayes - Age 19

Frank Raymo/Raymond & Emma Pecott(?)

2008-03-12T12:58:00.000-07:00

I think I may be able to safely assume that Rosanna "Anna" Raymo's father *is* Frank but her mother isn't Emma Pecott...

My father and my aunt both have said they knew Clifford, Russell, Charlie... Though the girl names aren't ringing any bells.

I have two censuses:

1900 Census: Addison, Addison County, Vermont
Raymond, Frank: Head - Male - May 1862 - 38 - 5 years married - born: France - immigrated 1883
Raymond, Emma: Wife - Female - May 1867 - 33 - 5 years married - born: New York
Raymond, Caroline: Daughter - Female - June 1896 - 3 - born: Vermont
Raymond, Edward S.: Son - Male - September 1898 - 1 - born: Vermont
Brooska, Clara S.: Niece - Female - November 1886 - 13

Now, what confuses me in this 1900 census is that it says that Emma has had only two children. Both are listed in the census. Anna Raymo was born in December of 1885.

My father sat in front of the computer at Ancestry.com and after just ten minutes or so, he managed to find this 1910 census! Eesh.

1910 Census: New Haven, Addison County, Vermont
Ramo, Frank: Head - Male - 55 - SECOND MARRIAGE - 15 years married - born: France - immigrated 1889
Ramo, Emma: Wife - Female - 45 - First Marriage - 15 years married - born: New York
Ramo, Caroline: Daughter - Female - 14 - born: Vermont
Ramo, Edward: Son - Male - 11 - born: Vermont
Ramo, Charles: Son - Male - 9 - born: Vermont
Ramo, Clifford: Son - Male - 7 - born: Vermont
Ramo, Howard: Son - Male - 6 - born: Vermont
Ramo, Russell: Son - Male - 4 - born: Vermont

I'm convinced now that Anna's mother is someone else, from Frank's first marriage. Still doing some more digging.

EDIT: Not sure how to find Anna's mother. Anna was born in 1885 and would've shown up in the 1890 census but that burned.. and 1900, Frank had already moved on to his next family. The marriage years seem consistent so it is safe to say they married in 1895. Something happened after 1885 and before 1895.

According to the one member's tree, the unaccounted name left is Phoebe. No dates available for her either.

Elizabeth Rivait - Anna Raymo

2008-03-11T14:37:00.000-07:00

Called the church for Elizabeth Marie Rivait's baptism record. Left our name and address and they said they'll research and send us anything if they find her information.

In 2006, We found a town clerk that found Anna Raymo's birth information that stated that her father's name was Francis Raymond and he came from France.

There is a tree on Ancestry.com where someone stated that Anna's parents are Frank Raymond and Emma Pecott. I contacted her but never got a response - I imagine she's not around or anything.

Having mentioned that, We called around in hopes of finding that Town clerk to ask for a copy. We called the Addison Town Clerk and she said she did not have a Rosanna/Anna Raymo but she found an Elsie (b: 7/11/1900) and a Clifford (4/14/1902) who both had parents named Frank Raymond (from France) and Emma ??? (from New York). These could very well be siblings of Anna Raymo.

James Edward Hayes & Dorothy Wood: Marriage Certificate

2008-03-10T08:47:00.001-07:00

I received two things in the mail today.

1. I'm so excited! They sent me the Groom information on James Edward Hayes & Dorothy Wood's marriage certificate.

Name of Groom: James Edward Hayes
Name of Bride: Dorothy Ruth Wood
Residence of Groom: Milton
Date of Marriage: September 25, 1928
Color: White
Age in years: 26
No. of Marriage: /
Occupation: Farming
Place of Birth: South Burlington
Father's Name: Lawrence Hayes
Birthplace: ?
Mother's name: Jennie ?
Birthplace: Charlotte, Vermont
Name Party Officiating: Karl J. Phelps

I'm excited! This verifies that the James E. Hayes buried at St. Catherine's is the same one who married my great grandmother! I'm so glad I finally have a document that links everything together! Woohoo!!!

2. Received a "No Record" on my grandmother, Elizabeth Marie Rivait when I requested for her birth certificate.

That was disappointing.

Birth Certificate - Robert Wilbur Smith

2008-03-03T10:39:00.001-08:00

I received my paternal grandfather's birth certificate today!

Robert W. Smith's parents:
Wilbur E. Smith - born in Addison, Vermont
Anna McEvila - born in Addison, Vermont

Now all I have to do is wait for Elizabeth Rivait's to come but that may take a very long time because it was a request to the state instead of sending it off to a local town clerk.

I've been told that a lot of town clerks can only give out certified copies so sending out ten bucks a pop gets expensive.

James Edward Hayes - Trying to find his parents

2008-03-03T08:06:00.000-08:00

Referring to my post before this one:
Have you ever found a possible link between one person and their parents but no matter how much info you dig up, you're not quite sure whether or not you should go ahead and link them together?

Another example! Get ready for this one.. It's a doozy. Some of you know, I've been tirelessly researching James Edward Hayes. Some of my friends wonder why I just won't go ahead and link because there's a few too-coincidental clues that would make the link.

My Great Uncles told me that he was born in South Burlington - My grandmother's, Thelma Ruth Hayes, birth certificate verifies this. I found a 1910 census that takes place in South Burlington with an 8 year old James E. Hayes. A tombstone at St. Catherine's Cemetery has his dates. This matches my Great Uncles's saying that he died in the early 50s. So why won't I make the link? I feel like I want more proof. I guess I'm just too uptight that way.

I did some research in order to try to find a link..

Tombstone at St. Catherine's Cemetery

Lawrence L.: 1859 - 1943
Jennie May Duprey: 1862 - 1927

Children:
John W.: b. 1892?
Lawrence L. Jr.: b. 1894?
Thomas Leo: b. 1896? - Married Mildred?
Ellen E.: b. 1898? - Married George M. Cilbrith
William R.: b. 1900? - Married Harriet M.?
James E.: 1901 - 1953
Stephen Roy: 1902 - 1920
Ruth Mae: 1909 - 1927

Grandchildren:
Ethel M. Cilbrith: 1918 - 1927

Parents of Lawrence L.:
Lawrence: b. 1820? - Ireland
Mary: b. ? - Ireland

Children:
Mary: b. 1853?
Margaret E.: b: 1855?
Lawrence: 1859 - 1943

Grandchildren:
Mabel M.: b. 1890? <-- no idea who she belongs to.

1910 - Mary (1853?) was head of household and took care of John W (nephew), Mabel M. Brown (niece), Mabel's husband Frank Brown (1886?), and child, Dorothy F. Brown (1910?).

1920 - January - Margaret E Hayes (1856?) had her nephew, James E (1901), living with her.

1920 - February - James E. Hayes was counted with his family. He may have moved in with them between the census-taking of the areas.

1930 - Mabel Brown was with her daughter, Rita M. (1921?) and taking care of her aunt, Margaret E.

I noticed a Charles Cockle (1854?) was listed as uncle of Lawrence (1859 - 1943) in one census. I'm not sure how that fits. Lawrence's parents are from Ireland. In the censuses I found of Charles Cockle, he was born in Vermont, his father was born in Vermont and his mother was born in New Hampshire.

I am guessing that he was really an Uncle-in-law and may have really been the uncle of Jennie Mae Duprey.

Charles Cockle:
1900 census: Charles is with wife, Abbie L., and daughters Luria J. and Flora B.
1910 census: Charles is with with, Abbie L., and daughter, Flora B.
1920 census: Charles is with Lawrence, listed as Uncle in relation.
1930 census: Charles is with Flora B., listed as Father-in-law.

Flora B. married Arthur G. Smith (1877?) and had a son, Robert F. Smith (1918?). I have no idea who Arthur's parents are. Too many Smith's running around.

I'm still struggling to get James E. Hayes' birth certificate. It seems that the records are being split between Burlington and South Burlington yet no one seems to have any records? Hm...

Stephen Joseph Rivait - Trying to find his parents

2008-03-02T15:06:00.001-08:00

Have you ever found a possible link between one person and their parents but no matter how much info you dig up, you're not quite sure whether or not you should go ahead and link them together?

I've been researching Elizabeth Rivait's parents, Stephen Joseph Rivait and Anna Raymo (Raymond?).

I *think* there's a good possibility that Stephen's parents are Julius and Josephine Rivait. I found a census with a four year old Stephen along with various siblings (matches the year he was born). I researched the parents and siblings as much as I could but I never could find a link at all.

The only link that could even come closer is the fact that Stephen Rivait and Julius Rivait/Josephine are buried in the same cemetery.

My notes are as follows:

( Saint Peter's Cemetery - Vergennes, Addison County, Vermont )

Julius Rivait: 1841 - 1919
Josephine ?????: 1844 - 1892

Children:

Emma: b. 1866?
Mina: 1869 - 1957
Malvina: 1871 - 1959
Nealey: 1874 - 1942
Stephen: b. 1876?

Emma seems to have "disappeared" - in other words, no idea who she married.

Malvina ( Also buried in St. Peter's Cemetery ) married a Frederick(?) Pruniere.

Children:
Jules (Julius?) Frederick: (1896 - 1958)
Thelma J.: b. 1898?

Thelma J. married a Charles Flint (b. 1894?)

Malvina, according to censuses, took care of both Mina and Nealy for quite a long time. In one census, Nealey was named as Cornelius. I think it's safe to say that Mina and Nealey never married and never had kids.

WWI Registration Card for Nealy Rivett, it is noted on the back that he is "Obviously Disqualified (Feeble-Minded)" - Stephen is noted as the person 'who knows where the registrant is at all times'.

Malvina seems to have been a big time caretaker. She took care of her siblings and children longer than she should have. I really am curious as to where Emma took off to.

I'm pretty sure I could sit down and say, "They *are* related. Too much of a coincidence." but I really want documents and proof to say that they are related.

My plan is, if the state can find Elizabeth Rivait's birth certificate and it states where her parents are born, I will then call the place where Stephen J Rivait was born... and hope that they do have a copy to verify who his parents are.

Birth Certificates - Thelma Hayes and LIVING Derouchie

2008-03-01T09:18:00.000-08:00

My maternal grandparents' birth certificates arrived in the mail - his yesterday and hers today. It's pretty neat to have their birth certificates. The information on them is quite interesting!

LIVING Derouchie's parents:
Alex Louis Derouchie - born in Canada
Katharine Sophrona Abare - born in Shelburne, Chittenden County, Vermont

Thelma Ruth Hayes' parents:
James Edward Hayes - born in South Burlington, Chittenden County, Vermont
Dorothy Wood - born in Springfield, Windsor County, Vermont

Renewed Ancestry Subscription

2008-02-28T14:04:00.000-08:00

Decided to renew subscription to Ancestry for a month today to see if there's any new information that has been contributed since I last used the site last year.

Linda Derouchie

2008-02-28T11:56:00.000-08:00

I made out another request that'll be sent out tomorrow. This time for a birth certificate of Linda Derouchie who died a few months old back in 1949 or 1950. My mother has been calling around to see if anyone remembers her. Her father doesn't recall much except he knew the name of a funeral home, Lavigne Funeral Home in Winooski, Vermont. She was also supposedly buried in Mount Calvary Cemetery in Burlington, Vermont.

She then called her aunt and she remembered. She must've been around eight or so... She said she remembers everyone crying and there was a little white casket. There's some speculation going on. It might've been crib death but there's something about how the poor baby may have been accidentally smothered to death when they slept in bed that night. I'm not really sure.

Some of us suspect that Linda may not have her own tombstone. There's a possibility that a wooden cross was set up for her... or perhaps an obscure marker... and no one ever went back to give her a proper tombstone. I think if we find her and it is true that she doesn't have anything, my parents may buy one for her.

Rivait/Raymo - No Record

2008-02-28T09:02:00.001-08:00

I finally received a response today.

They were unable to find a marriage certificate for Stephen Joseph Rivait and Anna Raymo. On the back of the paper, I added quite a bit of information such as Anna being a nickname for Rosanna, etc. I wrote down some census information and whatnot.

This is disappointing. Now I have to try to find some other way to figure out who their parents are.

Contacting the Church for Elizabeth Rivait

2008-02-26T02:15:00.000-08:00

Just recently got some information from a relative who is a... daughter of a child of Lillian Rivait. I believe something about a town that had burned down so the relative had to contact a church in Weybridge, Vermont where Lillian G. Rivait was born and baptised. They got the baptism record from the church there.

There's a possibility that Elizabeth Rivait was also born there and maybe baptized there as well. Will have to call the church and find out. If this is true, that means I wasted ten dollars in trying to get a birth certificate for her on Monday. Oops.

Mailing out request for Birth and Marriage certificates

2008-02-24T08:47:00.000-08:00

Made up two envelopes today to be mailed out tomorrow. One is a request for a marriage certificate for James Edward Hayes and Dorothy Wood. Hopefully there's a record of it floating around in Vermont somewhere.

The other is a request for a birth certificate of Elizabeth Marie Rivait. No telling how long it'll take to hear from them, I'm sure.

Still waiting to hear back about the request for marriage certificate on Rivait/Raymo that was mailed on the 9th.

Birth Certificates

2008-02-23T09:15:00.000-08:00

Called a handful of town clerks in Vermont yesterday. Managed to track down birth certificates of my paternal grandfather, Smith, and my maternal grandparents, LIVING Derouchie and Hayes. I tried Vergennes, Addison, and Waltham to try to find a birth certificate for my paternal grandmother, Elizabeth Rivait, but no go.

The town clerks gave me information so I sent out three envelopes today to get copies of birth certificates. May have to go another route to try to find my paternal grandmother's bc.

Possible find on James E. Hayes!

2008-02-13T00:09:00.000-08:00

I created this page ( James Edward Hayes of South Burlington, Vermont ) in hopes of some relative of James would discover it and say, "Those fit information on mine!" but no one ever did.

I did some lazy searching at findagrave.com when I discovered a tombstone submitted for Lawrence L. Hayes. I looked over the tombstone and to my shock and wonder, I discovered "James E." at the very bottom.. born 1901 and died 1953! This fits information that my great uncles told us as well as various censuses I found.

I contacted Barb Destromp to let her know that she overlooked James E. at the bottom. - I just wanna take this moment to say that she is a phenomenal woman! I don't know how she has the time to submit all those tombstones. Whew!

I guess at this stage, I am going to try to contact the cemetery to see if they have information on James E. I may even send off a request for a marriage certificate for James now that I know where he's buried. I'm willing to bet all my money that he is the same one.

Marriage Certificates

2008-02-09T23:00:00.000-08:00

I posted two marriage certificates that my Great Uncle sent to me.

Emery George Abare & Ida LaForce
Alex Derouchie & Katharine Abare

I have sent away a request (along with $10) for a copy of a marriage certificate for Stephen Joseph Rivait and Rosanna "Anna" Raymo. I really really hope they have it. It'd be nice to break down some walls and find out who their parents are.

Diary of Myron A Clark

2007-11-12T12:28:00.000-08:00

I just uploaded a text version of Myron A. Clark's Diary. He was a Great Great Great Grand Uncle of mine who died at the Battle of Gettysburg. The diary doesn't seem to be anything special except quick recaps over a period of several months but it was interesting nonetheless to get a glimpse into his life at that period of time. The last page contains a letter that was written that mentioned Myron which I thought was interesting.

Photographs and Tombstones

2007-04-16T19:35:00.000-07:00

I just recently got some photographs of my family. It's pretty neat! I finally know what Zenas Wood and Blanche Chase looked like - even though they're very old in the picture.

I also got many pictures of tombstones that I uploaded to findagrave.com. I recognized a couple of names but most of them ring no bells for me.

However, there is a tombstone of Julius and Josephine Rivait near Stephen Rivait's tombstone. Maybe Julius and Josephine really were his parents - all of this being based off censuses I found. I would feel better if I had some concrete evidence.

I'll have to update the information on my homepage soon.

Site Index

2007-04-05T16:42:00.000-07:00

I was told that my site can be a little bit hard to navigate with some stuff tucked away that wouldn't be seen otherwise.

SITE INDEX

I doubt it's any less confusing but I believe every single page/item is listed on the one html document now.

Calling Town Clerks

2007-03-03T13:24:00.000-08:00

Some people wonder how I got certain information and I can tell you how. Call town clerks! I realize that's easier said than done because I'm not sure how it works in other parts of the states (or world) and maybe I do have it easier. I have only called town clerks in Vermont and all were certainly helpful even if some didn't have any information. It was only Burlington who has told me that they can't (or refuse to?) give information via phone and that I'd have to go in person to get what I need.

What I do wish is that I jotted down information on every town clerk I called and why I called. It's been months and months now since I've called any (I certainly don't do it for fun!) but I find myself wondering who I called to get certain information or who I was planning to call for some bit of information.

I know some people like to think that everything is achievable through the internet but I learned the hard way that it isn’t entirely true. Sometimes you just have to take the old-fashioned route and actually drive somewhere in person to get what you need. The horror.

Pictures of Tombstones

2006-12-09T03:53:00.000-08:00

Have you ever heard of Find A Grave? You can do a search for certain people, depending if someone contributed information. There are people who visit cemeteries and upload pictures of tombstones along with any possible information.

I learned where my great great grandmother, Blanch Josephine Chase, was buried so I went and looked to see if anyone submitted any information. No luck. What I did was I looked at most of the submissions in the specific cemetery and found out that most of it was contributed by one woman so I decided to contact her and ask if she was willing to take pictures of my great great grandmother's tombstone.

She replied and said that she was more than willing to look. Two days later, she sent me photos of her tombstone - as well as a tombstone next to it with two names of boys that died at very young ages - and posted it on the site. I thought that was incredibly nice of her. It finally verified that Donald really did exist and did die at a young age. The other name, Earl, caught me offguard because I didn't know about him.

McEvila / Greenwood

2006-07-15T12:47:00.000-07:00

A cousin (I'm not sure exactly yet how she is related but she is! A somewhat distant cousin most likely) sent me papers that filled in some gaps when it came to the McEvila / Greenwood part of my family tree.

She sent me information on James McEvila and Charlotte Greenwood and their five children, Jessie, William, Anna, John, and Eugenia. Anna was my Great Grandmother and judging from this piece of paper, I believe the cousin descended from William.

She also sent me a scan of James McEvila's Certificate of Naturalization. His last name was written as McVeilla though. The other one is of James Greenwood's discharge from the service for reason of expiration of service.

Charlotte Greenwood's parents both came from Ireland. The cousin said that McEvila also came from Ireland and she has someone over there trying to find more information on both of them.

Discovering an Aunt

2006-06-08T23:04:00.000-07:00

My mother called a Great Grand Aunt, who is the daughter of Zenas Wood, to get information about her children and her siblings. We knew at least of twelve siblings that this Great Grand Aunt had. She said that there was actually fifteen of them altogether. Unfortunately, she came along so late that she has no idea who her earlier siblings were.

This got me to talking with my mother. If I discovered that I had fourteen siblings or more, I'd sit her down with a great big notepad and get all the information I could out of her on who they were and when they were born. Not because of genealogy but because this is my family.

Suddenly, my mother revealed something that was a total surprise for me. Apparently, she had a sister named Linda who was born after her. She died a few months old from crib death. My mother said she never thought about it until now.

Genealogy Frustrations

2006-06-07T22:15:00.000-07:00

My Great Uncle-in-Law was gathering information for the family tree awhile back and my mother helped as much as she could. He told us, "No one cares about the family tree and won't help you.. but they'll want to see it after." This comes from relatives who don't want to take the time to tell him information about their families.

My mother came to the rescue and talked to her many siblings and relatives to try to get information from them and it was passed back to my great uncle-in-law.

Daresay, what frustrates me now? Family photos. I have one relative who said she had a wedding photo of Zenas Wood and Blanch Chase on their wedding day and naturally I want a copy of it. She said she'd make a copy and send it to me. This occurred a few months ago when I first gained an interest. I also asked an aunt-in-law to make copies from her husband's photo album that contains really old photos. She said she would gather the photos and send what she can. The photos/copies still have not arrived and I just can't bring myself to annoy anyone into doing it.

I have already printed out information and sent them to several relatives.

Londonderry, Windham County, Vermont

2006-05-08T12:18:00.000-07:00

Today I received some birth and death registration scans from a town clerk in Londonderry, VT. I was looking for more information on my Great Great Grandfather, Zenas Turner Wood, and I am surprised at what I got.

Zenas had two sisters. Minnie Eva Wood and Edith E. Wood. Also included was two death registrations of two male stillborns. The sad thing is that after the last Stillborn on October 24th, Eva L Thompson (their mother) had died a week later on October 31st, 1896 from consumption.

That must've been very crushing for the family.

Subscription to Ancestry.com

2006-05-01T10:38:00.000-07:00

Today, I purchased one month subscription to Ancestry.com. I managed to dig up three WWI registration cards of my great grandfathers (Zenas Turner Wood, Stephen Joseph Rivait, and Wilbur Earl Smith).

Unfortunately, I am lacking information on my great grandfather, James Edward Hayes.

Looking through censuses have been helpful because that's when I can discover who their parents are but it's still difficult if no one can verify them.

Starting my Research

2006-04-20T17:55:00.000-07:00

The interest to look up information on my family tree is a very recent thing. Unfortunately, my grandparents on my father's side died in the 80's and my grandmother on my mother's side died in 2003. My surviving grandfather doesn't seem to know much about the family. I know it will require much effort to uncover what I can.